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Old 06-01-2005, 10:18   #176
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Seems folk think new golf gti will kick our butt on track,im not convinced but will go with the crowd if im wrong,not much between power to weight so its down to handling,perhaps someone has one they could take to track day at c.combe in may were the truth will out.!Im hoping to go and zsv6 has his name down THE CHALLENGE IS SET!



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There all same company and the 1.8 is the same unit, just tuned .
I dont think its down to tuning, just a bigger turbo and different intercoolers
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I dont think its down to tuning, just a bigger turbo and different intercoolers
the new GTI has a new engine its a two litre turbo not the old 1.8 engine

i think if you a 32 year old housewife with 2.4 children then the GOLF will prob be the perfect car for you !

its slower than a leon cupra and honda CTR so why is it this wonderful car cus the press get paid to say so!
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Old 06-01-2005, 11:15   #180
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We were on about the 1.8 in the skodas ,audis and golfs of last model wirls.



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Old 07-01-2005, 19:17   #181
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right okay here goes
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BMW 318, 320 and 325(assume he was going easy)
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Old 07-01-2005, 19:21   #182
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MR2 turbo ,they v fast guess it must have handled like a spoon then,was it on track.



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Been on www.briskoda.net and the autocar VRS had a 210/220 remap,standard VRS's put in similar times to the ZS.
Good site btw,shame the ZS doesn't have a equivalent site.

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was in mainstone last night (went to a meet), those of u who done know mainstone it has a lot of traffic lights, was on my way home and this clio 2.0 16v pulled up i know this as the car has it written on the side, i couldnt be bothered to waste my fuel at this point but then thought to myself how often do i get a chance like this, so i pulled up at the next set of lights after he had spun of previous, we both floored it at the lights i got a better start than him he was on my rear in 1st but as 2nd came into play i managed to pull away a little then he turned off, but what i didnt see was a third car behind the clio a B*W (318 mayb)not sure of the make coz they all look the same he was tryin it on in the single lane i just kept speedin up and slowin down to annoyin him lol all good fun,

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Old 09-01-2005, 21:25   #185
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Beat an astra turbo very convincingly,1.7 diesel turbo!!!.I think perhaps i don't get out enough!!!



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ive beaten a astra gti or gsi or what ever they call them, seems to be a lots of boyracers about at the mo, was on a dual carrageway doin about 70 and this saxo vtr was up my asre so i just floored it in 5th lol and lost him so i slowed right down to 50mph so he could pull along side me his m8s where in the car and they waved as if to say they was overtakin lol, i let him get a little in front for a laugh they just floored it in 5th past them oh and to be polite i waved back
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Old 09-01-2005, 23:33   #187
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I had a ****** good laugh at an Astra tonight. I was in the 1st lane and he was in the 2nd lane, he tried to get in front of me and turn left across me at a roundabout.

I don't know if he was trying hard but I don't think I went over 3000rpm making sure he didn't get in front. Then when we took the same exit off the roundabout I knocked it down to second and floored it, leaving him trailing in my wake

Then at the next set of lights I managed to get round a Punto being driven at 25 mph, and he did not. Oh how I laughed as I sped away looking at him tailgating the Punto in frustration
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My car was flying tonight even with a full tank of petrol!! came up behind a octavia vrs who was driving lively never really had chance to prove anything but on what did happen my car was obviously quicker so the mods deffo work as the vrs performance is about identical to standard zs.These cold nights suit the zs's v6 and the bmc highlights it. He let me past after a bit ,must be them twin menacing headlights in the mirror.



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Coming home from h and s today was driving very economically ,did 315 miles and have quarter tank left ,however i couldn't resist a couple of sprints ,first one was an st24 very close to my back bumper and off round about up slip road i moved to inside lane and he was trying to get past before id fully moved so when he got to the side of me i re acquainted the throttle pedal with the carpet in 2nd gear, i just pulled away and by the time 3rd was singing he was a spec in the mirror,i slowed down then to try and see his embarrased red cheeks but he wouldnt come past Then half way home had a new c class sports trying to shove me out of the way in the fast lane and as we were only going about 60 i pulled into middle lane and predictably he booted it ,well i was ready with 3rd gear selected so i booted it to ,it was fairly close for couple of secs then i pulled ahead easily and as fourth was selected i eased off ,then a few seconds later he shot past and i just cruised on home ,the point was proved and he knew it, it was a 320 so i was chuffed.



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I take it you're impressed with the h&s manifolds and higflow cat then dave!

How long did the removal of the oe zorst system,and the refitting of the new one take?-was it bout 1/2 a day as they said?

How much of a difference to the car have the mani & cat made then?

Is it any louder?

What's happened to the oe spec manifolds etc-did they just get chucked or did you stick em in back off car?

Do tell-cos im very interested!-may be able to afford to do it myself one day!
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Old 19-01-2005, 22:54   #191
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I take it you're impressed with the h&s manifolds and higflow cat then dave!

How long did the removal of the oe zorst system,and the refitting of the new one take?-was it bout 1/2 a day as they said?

How much of a difference to the car have the mani & cat made then?

Is it any louder?

What's happened to the oe spec manifolds etc-did they just get chucked or did you stick em in back off car?

Do tell-cos im very interested!-may be able to afford to do it myself one day!
Incredibly impressed!! took about 3 ,3.5 hours which was quicker than expected.Its made a whacking great grin inducing difference and yes its louder ,just chucked old ones away ,was going to take pics to show how bad it was but forgot camera but i was up at 4 this morning.



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Dave!,

What's the performance difference like then?

Has it just made the car feel quicker?-or is it more all round?-:- more free revving/more torquey/more power!?

Has it made the drive any different

Basically how has it altered the characteristics of the car,and its behavoiur!?

Dont need to ask if you recommend an h&s system do i!!!!!!

How much did it come to in the end!?
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I wouldn't call it a hot hatch, but I did keep up with a M3 along the back roads near my home. Granted I do know the road very well, but try as he might I was on his tail the whole way. I did have to open her up a bit but I kept up with a M3 with a bit to spare, I was smiling the rest of the way home
And on the same stretch a different day, I lost a couple of super bikes... well I know nowt about bikes but they were sports bikes of 800cc+ so not slow. But the tight corners and bendy lanes suited the ZS and they were gone.(Maybe in a straight line they would tell a different story, but they weren't ... so there!)
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Dave!,

What's the performance difference like then?

Has it just made the car feel quicker?-or is it more all round?-:- more free revving/more torquey/more power!?

Has it made the drive any different

Basically how has it altered the characteristics of the car,and its behavoiur!?

Dont need to ask if you recommend an h&s system do i!!!!!!

How much did it come to in the end!?
In answer to second question it reacts instantly now ,seems to get a bigger reaction from a smaller throttle input,low down torque is same as before,bit more up the revs though maybe,power wise ,well its got more of it everywere especially at medium/high revs.
Only difference to driving is its louder and the characteristics of the engine power delivery are the same,just stronger.
Cost was pleasantly cheaper than you might think. They seem genuinely nice chaps and i don't think they charge what may seem a high price for nothing,theres obviously a lot of time and care goes into their product, and some highly skilled people to pay.



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Basildon 20 mins from j29 on m25,if you go on their site theres a map.Took me 3 hours each way but id have gone from scotland! Whats your induction lewerty?



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kicked the butt of an mazda RX8 this morn was a straight line drag as well from round 30 + we both went (him first by the way) i soon caught up then past then left it also was a black CTR but he wouldnt play young lad as well want to see how i go now against one
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kicked the butt of an mazda RX8 this morn was a straight line drag as well from round 30 + we both went (him first by the way) i soon caught up then past then left it also was a black CTR but he wouldnt play young lad as well want to see how i go now against one
Good effort mate, they take a bit of licking b'cos the 190PS version and 230PS version never look any different! Two chaps have one each at work and I can never tell the differece, but the quicker car has xenon lamps I think.

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I've driven a 230PS RX8, IMO I'd say they 're no quicker than a 180. But you have to wind them up, with the roatary engine, you're doing 7000rpm before it even goes anywhere. Maybe someone who has gotten used to one would get more out of it, but theres no way it feels the same as a 230bhp V6 ZS would. (Nice smooth comfortable car though to drive). LSD and traction control too, plus back-wheel drive, so again I wasn't used to that, too refined, 180 definatly a more "raw" drivers car.
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Beat another zs 180 otherday,i booted it in 2nd and i reckon i caught him dozing in 4th or sumat but by the time he realized i was at warp 5 making the jump to light speed!!I'm sure i recognised him from some were an all,blue 51 reg hatch back,anyone know who it was??!!



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Beat another zs 180 otherday,i booted it in 2nd and i reckon i caught him dozing in 4th or sumat but by the time he realized i was at warp 5 making the jump to light speed!!I'm sure i recognised him from some were an all,blue 51 reg hatch back,anyone know who it was??!!
at the risk of sounding like a total nerd, but how can you jump from warp 5 to light speed... that would be slowing down since light speed is warp 1, thus warp five is 5 times the speed of light. Just thought I'd point that out. (Although stricktly speaking Einstien proved that it is impossible to travel at a velocity greater than that of light... so the whole concept is wrong anyway).
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at the risk of sounding like a total nerd, but how can you jump from warp 5 to light speed... that would be slowing down since light speed is warp 1, thus warp five is 5 times the speed of light. Just thought I'd point that out. (Although stricktly speaking Einstien proved that it is impossible to travel at a velocity greater than that of light... so the whole concept is wrong anyway).
OH all right ,i don't know,have never actually gone to any warp speeds,hands up you got me ,i don't watch star trudge!!!!!



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Beat another zs 180 otherday,i booted it in 2nd and i reckon i caught him dozing in 4th or sumat but by the time he realized i was at warp 5 making the jump to light speed!!I'm sure i recognised him from some were an all,blue 51 reg hatch back,anyone know who it was??!!

its the same one who you could just keep up with on a trip to a shell garage
one who has not got manifolds but still just as fast

and like you say i was in forth and you in 2nd but you still only pulled bought 100 yards on me

DAVE GET IT MAPPED!!
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i don't watch star trudge!!!!!
Obviously not as if you did you'd know that warp 5 is Star Trek and light speed is Star Wars!

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its the same one who you could just keep up with on a trip to a shell garage
one who has not got manifolds but still just as fast

and like you say i was in forth and you in 2nd but you still only pulled bought 100 yards on me

DAVE GET IT MAPPED!!

Thought it was remapped!?

Or do you mean remap the remap!?
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Thought it was remapped!?

Or do you mean remap the remap!?

true but he still not as fast as me!!

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Wirls matey,wondered were you were,was it you then that i took apart,i wouldn't have admitted it.I sent mail about getting it mapped but got no replies back,im no desperate though cause its faster than yours anyway. Harbs my car had superchip before anything else and it really wants mapping to all the new mods.



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