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Old 26-07-2007, 22:32   #211
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Another happy customer to add to the list Nigel!
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Old 29-07-2007, 14:46   #212
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Finally got round to fitting mine yesterday! After a few problems with Master Cylinder travel that Nigel advised me about its all sorted now. So So much better than the original - i still havent taken it for a full blast but pottering up and down the road it feels alot better.

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I've still got to fit my new clevis pin assy!

Tbh it can wait until the car has been into the bodyshop- to see whether i have the enthusiasm to do any more with this car!

I'm just hoping that the new clevis pin kit- will give me just that bit more travel- enough to make it so 3rd doesn't baulk when trying to grab it reasonably quickly!

To anyone who hasn't invested in this kit yet though- get one bought- it's MUCH better than the o.e stuff!
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Old 29-07-2007, 18:20   #214
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Glad it is sorted. A longer clevis is on its way to you anyway.

Fitted a new clevis to mine on Friday. Pedal is about the same height but the extra adjustment allowed very fine tuning. Now the non return valve is only just cracked open when the pedal is at rest. Bite point is higher and box feels more slick:

Move pedal stop out of the way of the pedal
Remove old clevis
Screw new clevis onto master cylinder - most of the way. Don't tighten lock nut yet.
Put clevis pin in place but don't put the clip across
Return pedal stop
Check that slave can be pushed in a little
By turning the master cylinder push rod, unscrew clevis until slave is blocked when the pedal is at rest.
Screw push rod in until slave can be pushed in again - only a small amount at a time. This will need a few attmepts to get right.
Tighthen lock nut and clip clevis pin in place.

You now have the equivalent of a "competition" master cylinder.

Anyone who wants a longer clevis, please PM and it will be sent FOC.
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Old 29-07-2007, 19:12   #215
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I am really interested in getting some money together to get this system. Ive had my ZS for 4 years and the only problems ive had have been with the clutch. The slave blew apart last week so i bought a new one and fitted it but its still very "soggy" with a biting point virtally on the floor. And the Slave bracket looks like it will snap every time i look at it!!!

Seriously though how easy is it to fit one of these.....i dont want to get half way through and then find ive got a car i cant drive!!!

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Old 29-07-2007, 20:14   #216
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Rob,
Glad it is sorted. A longer clevis is on its way to you anyway.

Fitted a new clevis to mine on Friday. Pedal is about the same height but the extra adjustment allowed very fine tuning. Now the non return valve is only just cracked open when the pedal is at rest. Bite point is higher and box feels more slick:

Move pedal stop out of the way of the pedal
Remove old clevis
Screw new clevis onto master cylinder - most of the way. Don't tighten lock nut yet.
Put clevis pin in place but don't put the clip across
Return pedal stop
Check that slave can be pushed in a little
By turning the master cylinder push rod, unscrew clevis until slave is blocked when the pedal is at rest.
Screw push rod in until slave can be pushed in again - only a small amount at a time. This will need a few attmepts to get right.
Tighthen lock nut and clip clevis pin in place.

You now have the equivalent of a "competition" master cylinder.

Anyone who wants a longer clevis, please PM and it will be sent FOC.
Cheers Nigel, i will fit the longer clevis when i get the chance and fine tune. Im on the 2nd thread at the moment, i wasnt brave enough to use only the last thread!

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Old 29-07-2007, 22:30   #217
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Welcome to the forum.
Kit is fairly easy to fit provided you take your time. Just basic spannering. Instructions are supplied with the kit together with the tricks and tips learned.
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Another satisfied customer here, the kit arrived this morning, a high quality upgrade imo.

Nigel, could you send me the instructions, they aren't in the box, it looks a straightforward job but would be useful to have any hints and tips regarding set up.

Thanks again Nigel.
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Old 30-07-2007, 15:03   #219
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Another satisfied customer here, the kit arrived this morning, a high quality upgrade imo.

Nigel, could you send me the instructions, they aren't in the box, it looks a straightforward job but would be useful to have any hints and tips regarding set up.

Thanks again Nigel.
Should be on a CD in the box!
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Should be on a CD in the box!
Just checked it again, to make sure I didn't miss a CD in my excitement when it arrived, sadly not.
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Hi just joined the forum. is the quoted kit still available? if it is how much is it?
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Old 04-08-2007, 10:00   #223
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This kit is defo well worth having, mine's been fitted since April and it's sooo much better than standard.

No worries about trickling along in traffic jams etc now, and no soggy feelings to my pedal either - ever!!!

I'm happy with my original clevis setting, it just means when I drive other people's cars their clutches seem really light and high biting................
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ANOTHER happy customer. I can now change down into second 1st time without having to stir the gear stick.
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Well finally got round to fitting the longer Clevis today (Car goes up for Sale tomorrow so thought i better sort it) - Its even better now! Amazing, followed your guide Nigel on how to perfect the 'Competition' feel and i have to say gear changes are more precise than ever with minimal clutch effort.

I found the perfect settings for me were: Screw longer Clevis fully onto Master rod and then unscrew exactly 2 full rotations - tighten Clevis lock nut and then away you go! to get the pedal resting exactly as i wanted i added an extra waher onto the pedal stop so may be an idea to add an extra one to the kit Nigel (just a thought im sure its ok for most!).

Anyway just wanted to say again how exellent this kit is.

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Just started to fit the new bits yesterday, should get it done tonight cant wait it has been off the road for a week. Been using my mums 1.6 rover 400 no fun at all
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Old 05-10-2007, 19:13   #228
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Hi,

Would any one know were i would be able to get one of the clutch upgrades??
I'm desperate my MG is driving me nut's Iím not enjoying the drive when really i should be loving it!! The gear change is perfect when the car is cold but when the car is warm itís a pain itís not nice to drive the gears crunch in to second and third these are the worse oneís!! Please help!!

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pm Sheddist, he makes the kits up, everything you will need is in the kit, and it's well worth fitting.
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Iv'e just had a reply of sheddist unfortunatlly he's not got the parts available just yet.Any one got any ideas??
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You could waste your money on a new standard set up or wait until NIgel (Sheddist) has the parts for his kit.

His kit is far better than the standard set up. And it's bleedable too.
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Old 06-10-2007, 09:31   #232
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If this clutch hydraulic upgradrade is as good as it sounds from all the feedback i'll wait untill it's available again hope it wont be too long!!

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I'm on the waiting list for a kit.
My Mk1 has one fitted and the difference between my car and the Mrs car is night and day.
I'd go as far to say its the single most important mod you should do to a ZS.
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That sound good it's now just a waiting game!

It's makes it a different car i bet!?
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Old 14-10-2007, 14:45   #235
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Over the past two weeks, I have been experiencing issues with my clutch where intermittently (about 8 times in total) I could not get the out of gear without pressing the clutch again. Yesterday; I had the ITG induction kit fitted & the mechanic was asked to locate (& hopefully resolve) the clutch issue. However the clutch worked perfectly so they could not identify the problem. Today, I was driving around the Telford Town Centre one way system & my clutch failed. The AA towed me home & the mechanic confirmed that the problem is the cluch hydraulics. So; since my MG has now done 50k miles & has already had the Master - Slave systems replaced at 30k, I would prefer to fit a higher quality system. The Sheddists upgrade seems ideal. Is this available yet or how quickly could I obtain one.
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Ideal to PM him to see if he has any available. Well worth the upgrade.

Where abouts in Telford you from?? i live in Wellington, you have a Mk1??

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Have emailed Sheddist & have arranged to purchase - collect hydraulics upgrade; I will post results.
Sie; I live in Stirchley & own a mk1 (originally a 51 plate) Anthracite Grey (almost black) ZS180 hatch & my wife has a modded Blue MGF vvt.
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Nice one, will have to keep an eye out, i have a Semi Loud Trophy Blue Saloon with either chrome lipped 18s or Black 16s, got R45 headlamps too.

And Clutch kit is without a doubt a great Upgrade.

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I've had my name down for one of these kits for a little while now. Good old 'Shed' should be getting some more kits soon fingers crossed.

For those with the kit fitted, is the biting point low enough to actually allow for snappier gear changes over standard? I'm pretty sure I was able to change gear at twice the speed in my previous car
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Drove over to Selly Oak on Wednesday, bought Sheddists clutch kit & had it fitted on Thursday.
This is a very impressive upgrade & is highly recommended. The garage fitted it in less than two hours & my 180 clutch now feels so much better.
Overall rating; 12 out of 10.
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Drove over to Selly Oak on Wednesday, bought Sheddists clutch kit & had it fitted on Thursday.
This is a very impressive upgrade & is highly recommended. The garage fitted it in less than two hours & my 180 clutch now feels so much better.
Overall rating; 12 out of 10.
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Glad you got the clutch sorted mate! How do you find the general feel of the clutch (e.g. bite point, gear change) compared to OE?
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Everything feels much better; slicker, lighter & more precise. But in my ZS180, the clutch pedal is still higher than the brake & throttle.
However; I had the kit fitted at a local garage so they may not have fully adjusted it. Even so, this is definately worthwhile & is highly recommended (if only for peace of mind because the original system will definately fail).
Additionally; the instructions are very good (provided on CD with colour photos etc) & Nigel certainly "knows his stuff".
Perhaps the acid test is; "if I bought another ZS180, would I fit the Sheddist system again?"
The answer is "yes".
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Nigel,

Kit came today, thanks box was abit worse for wear but everything was ok inside. will try and fit it this weekend....let you know how I get on
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hi fitted clutch upgrade yesterday i did not seem to have any problems bleeding
the air out . 5 mins all done i think i was very lucky!!!!!
wow gear changing is a lot smoother now.
that man who lives in a shed is absolute genius
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I also fitted the kit and must say that I had a couple of problems with the bleeding and also working out how to remove the pin from the long clevis (it was getting dark and I was getting tired )

Made a couple of phonecalls to Nigel and he was able to give me some a few pointers - Thanks a lot mate.

Clutch pedal is now the same height as the brake pedal, bite point (by chance) seems to be ideal with no resetting of the clevis required (aside from tightening the locknut).

The clutch feel is completely transformed with reduced pedal travel, little if no freeplay at the top of the travel (I guess that's a good thing?), and a good firm and consistent feel to the pedal.

Gear changes are more effortless. I may even be able to improve the feel with some fine tuning - I did check that the slave arm could be depressed with the pedal at rest and had no problems, so as long as it's acceptable to have no pedal freeplay at the top of the travel then I'll leave the setting as it is!

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