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oilman 13-01-2006 17:36

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Supposed to be good, we dont know for sure so we are having some chemically tested, so I hope it is as good as they say.

In theory, other than extreme applications it should be the same oil available to the general public.

Cheers

Simon.

oe_cosgrove 13-01-2006 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wirly
Simon what are your thoughts on Millers oils
noticed they in the paddock at donnington at track days so they must be used at the track

but will these be different to what is sold to public
cheers

Paul

It is the same oil. Millers is a small company producing what I have found to be the best so far.

I keep posting about Millers and thought I should tell you I dont sell it and have no financial interest in the product or company!

Cheers
Paul

Gas-Axe 15-01-2006 18:37

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OEM filters everytime for me. No contest.


I know they might well be rebadged Fram etc but it's a policy I've always had!




Aidan 15-01-2006 19:39

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Hi
What oil would you recomend for engine longevity (not just cost);
-2004 TF160 with X power exhaust and itg panel filter. 10,000 a year road use.

-2002 ZS120 with X power exhaust and itg panel filter, 10,000 a year road use?

Also is it worth changing the oil every 5,000 miles instead?

Thanks,
Aidan

oe_cosgrove 15-01-2006 20:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aidan
Hi
What oil would you recomend for engine longevity (not just cost);
-2004 TF160 with X power exhaust and itg panel filter. 10,000 a year road use.

-2002 ZS120 with X power exhaust and itg panel filter, 10,000 a year road use?

Also is it worth changing the oil every 5,000 miles instead?

Thanks,
Aidan

Millers..........check in your handbook for viscosity. Their 'Fully Synthetic Racing Specification' the best. Despite lower cost it is IMHO the best.

Cheers
Paul

oilman 16-01-2006 09:30

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Aiden,

As a quality option you are looking at a 5w-40 full synthetic for all year round use, go for a very good one and you are looking at 8-10,000 mile oil changes.

The cost option is to use a 10w-40 semi synthetic changed every 5,000 miles.

For plenty of choices, have a look on my site http://www.opieoils.co.uk

CHeers

Simon.

Dave V6 23-01-2006 13:48

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just seen HAVOLINE sae 5W -40 fully synthetic oil ,it says made by texaco and certified for acea,it was 11 plus vat for 5 litres .
Now the question ,does anyone know if its any good ? my oil is changed every 6 k but i do a few trackdays a year ,my engine isnt standard but i dont think its tuned enough to need special oil really.




oilman 23-01-2006 14:11

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave V6
just seen HAVOLINE sae 5W -40 fully synthetic oil ,it says made by texaco and certified for acea,it was 11 plus vat for 5 litres .
Now the question ,does anyone know if its any good ? my oil is changed every 6 k but i do a few trackdays a year ,my engine isnt standard but i dont think its tuned enough to need special oil really.

My advice would be if you are tracking the car, steer clear of cheap oils and use a proper race oil. These cheap synthetic oils are not synthetic at all but just hydrocracked petroleum oils and really not man enough for tougher applications, they are designed for stock road cars.

Cheers
Simon

wirly 23-01-2006 16:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave V6
just seen HAVOLINE sae 5W -40 fully synthetic oil ,it says made by texaco and certified for acea,it was 11 plus vat for 5 litres .
Now the question ,does anyone know if its any good ? my oil is changed every 6 k but i do a few trackdays a year ,my engine isnt standard but i dont think its tuned enough to need special oil really.

Dave i seen this on sunday mate when i went to JTF :lol:

blue harbour 23-01-2006 17:13

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Spend the money dave and get the silkolene pro-s! ;) - i ain't regrettin it one bit!

That comes labled up as race oil iirc!- top stuff! :beerchug

Dave V6 23-01-2006 19:25

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i aint fussy really ,but thing is i can get the millers from very close by and at a good price,i would have stuck the mobil one in again but it seems there is no need to go to that expense.




Shantung Black Tiger 07-02-2006 10:32

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Any one have any opinions on Castrol Formula RS 0W-40. Its the same rating as Mobil 1 and my local shop had it on special as they were discontinuing selling it. (20 for a 4 litre container). I figured I'd give it a go since Mobile 1 is about 30ish for the same ammount.

oilman 07-02-2006 10:36

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There is nothing wrong with it and that's a good price. It will eventually be replaced by edge sport 0w-40.

Cheers
Simon

Shantung Black Tiger 07-02-2006 11:07

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Excellent .. cheers :beerchug

Stealth 07-02-2006 12:56

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I use 5-30w Magnitex for my ZR 105, its got BMC CAD Induction kit, Xpower back box and is used everyday. Would you say I am using the correct stuff.

oilman 07-02-2006 13:05

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Magnatec is basic stuff and I do not recommend it for modded or track cars.

It's for stock road cars.

Cheers
Simon

oilman 07-02-2006 13:05

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Yes, or 5w-40.

Magnatec is not very good quality though.

Cheers

Simon.

Stealth 07-02-2006 13:15

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What is a good 1 to get then and where can I get it from

GazSuttonUK 07-02-2006 17:16

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Simon,
what would you recommend for:-

MG TF 135 5,000-6,000 miles/year.

MG ZR 105 5,000-6,000 miles/year.

MG B GT 2,000-3,000 miles/year.

Regards,
Gaz.

MarkB 07-02-2006 18:02

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Simon,

This one will test you:

1965 Jaguar E-Type 4.2 litre, straight 6.

Mods = bigger (and hardened) valves, lightened fly wheel, gas flowed head, uprated cams, stainless steel performance exhaust, all balanced and recently stripped & rebuilt.

Mileage = limited to summer use, 5,000 miles a year, normal/hard road use.

Cheers Mark.


(This info is for me dad - currently uses bog standard Castrol GTX)

gatvol 07-02-2006 19:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkB
Simon,

This one will test you:

1965 Jaguar E-Type 4.2 litre, straight 6.

Mods = bigger (and hardened) valves, lightened fly wheel, gas flowed head, uprated cams, stainless steel performance exhaust, all balanced and recently stripped & rebuilt.

Mileage = limited to summer use, 5,000 miles a year, normal/hard road use.

Cheers Mark.


(This info is for me dad - currently uses bog standard Castrol GTX)

You don't say what mileage is already on the engine since rebuild.
Also what service interval are you running with oil changes?

gatvol 07-02-2006 19:54

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Likewise Gaz, same questions regarding your BGT.

For the two moderns MG R recommended Mobil1's 0W40 and if you are sticking to an annual oil change this is fine, but if you don't like the price, and as you are doing 5-6k per year then a lower priced semi or full synthetic will work just as well. How long do you intend to keep these cars - long term? If so go with a better quality oil. If not stick with an average product.

scooter 07-02-2006 22:40

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To say that Magnatec is not good oil is far from the truth. If you change your oil every 6K miles in my opinion it is one of the best choices you could make. My own supercharged Range Rover did 230k miles and the bores still had the honing marks on the bores at 110k miles.The oil did stay on the surfaces when the engine was not used every day, as a TVR dealer we had a lot of worn cams on the old rover V8 which stopped when we went to Magnatec.Our 230hp Kseries race engine did a few races with magnatec in it and showed no signs of distress :beerchug

MarkB 08-02-2006 08:27

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Simon,

This one will test you:

1965 Jaguar E-Type 4.2 litre, straight 6.

Mods = bigger (and hardened) valves, lightened fly wheel, gas flowed head, uprated cams, stainless steel performance exhaust, all balanced and recently stripped & rebuilt.

Mileage = limited to summer use, 5,000 miles a year, normal/hard road use.

Cheers Mark.


(This info is for me dad - currently uses bog standard Castrol GTX)




The engine had done about 100,000 (can't say whether it was round the clock or not) Probably not. Engine has been stripped and flushed and has currently zero miles on the clock........

.....hence the oil question.

Cheers for any advise.

-Mark.

jam120 10-02-2006 17:49

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Hi

whats best for my ZR 120
Ive got some mobil 1 0 40w will this be ok ? the car is standard with 42,000 miles on the clock gets used reguarly (SP) i want the best oil for the car money not really a problem as long as the mgs ok!

:MG:

james

oilman 10-02-2006 21:17

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth
What is a good 1 to get then and where can I get it from

Take a look at the Motul and Silkolene ones here

http://www.opieoils.co.uk

Cheers
Simon

oilman 10-02-2006 21:19

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GazSuttonUK
Simon,
what would you recommend for:-

MG TF 135 5,000-6,000 miles/year.

MG ZR 105 5,000-6,000 miles/year.

MG B GT 2,000-3,000 miles/year.

Regards,
Gaz.

Gaz,

For the TF and ZR 5w-40 and for the BGT 10w-50 or 15w-50

Cheers
Simon

oilman 10-02-2006 21:22

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scooter
To say that Magnatec is not good oil is far from the truth. If you change your oil every 6K miles in my opinion it is one of the best choices you could make. My own supercharged Range Rover did 230k miles and the bores still had the honing marks on the bores at 110k miles.The oil did stay on the surfaces when the engine was not used every day, as a TVR dealer we had a lot of worn cams on the old rover V8 which stopped when we went to Magnatec.Our 230hp Kseries race engine did a few races with magnatec in it and showed no signs of distress :beerchug

I've always said that Magnatec is fine for stock road cars but I would always use a true synthetic in a modded or track car. Magnatec is simply not designed for this use.

Cheers
Simon

oilman 10-02-2006 21:29

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkB
Simon,

This one will test you:

1965 Jaguar E-Type 4.2 litre, straight 6.

Mods = bigger (and hardened) valves, lightened fly wheel, gas flowed head, uprated cams, stainless steel performance exhaust, all balanced and recently stripped & rebuilt.

Mileage = limited to summer use, 5,000 miles a year, normal/hard road use.

Cheers Mark.


(This info is for me dad - currently uses bog standard Castrol GTX)




The engine had done about 100,000 (can't say whether it was round the clock or not) Probably not. Engine has been stripped and flushed and has currently zero miles on the clock........

.....hence the oil question.

Cheers for any advise.

-Mark.

The original hanbook recommendation for this car would have been 20w-50 and back then oils were basic without the range available today. What we do know is that these older engines prefer thicker sae rated oils like sae 50 at higher temps. What has changed is that you can still use these viscosity oils but benefit from better cold start performance and lower wear. Looking at the specification I would suggest that a 10w-50 or 15w-50 will give the right level of protection and better cold start than a 20w-50.

If the car is a long term asset than go for a synthetic oil preferably a proper pao/ester based one as this will protect the engine the best.

Cheers
Simon

oilman 10-02-2006 21:30

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jam120
Hi

whats best for my ZR 120
Ive got some mobil 1 0 40w will this be ok ? the car is standard with 42,000 miles on the clock gets used reguarly (SP) i want the best oil for the car money not really a problem as long as the mgs ok!

:MG:

james

Mobil1 0w-40 is fine, it's a good quality oil.

Cheers
Simon
http://www.opieoils.co.uk

jam120 10-02-2006 22:25

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thanks :)

james

MarkB 13-02-2006 12:27

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Cheers Simon,

Will take a look at the 10-50 and 15-50 options. Your right in what your say, the E-Type engine does run a lot hotter when compared to modern engines of today. (So much so, a Kenlow fan had to be fitted to stop it over heating in summer in traffic. -So the oil does take a pounding)

Thanks, Mark.

oilman 13-02-2006 12:40

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
As a good top option I would look at Silkolene Pro R 15w-50 as the esters are a good option for older engines.

Cheers
Simon

staccato 14-02-2006 23:15

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oilman
I would recommend sticking with a fully synthetic.

0w-40 or 5w-40. API SL / ACEA A2 or A3

Cheers
Simon

for the zs 180 2.5 v6 the owner's manual says 10w-40. how come you've recommended a different viscosity oil, and why is it ok to use a different one?
thanks

MarkB 15-02-2006 08:31

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Hi Simon,

Do you rate "Car lube" as a good sythetic brand. I heard that they were up and coming. Also they are used as O.E. for TVR and Lotus.

What do you think ? (My local shop sells ltrs for 25)

Cheers Mark.

oilman 15-02-2006 09:37

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Most of the car lube oils we have come accross are cheap and chearfull using hydrocracked mineral base stocks, not true synthetic.

For a daily hack it is fine.

Cheers

Simon.

MarkB 15-02-2006 12:58

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Thanks Simon.

GazSuttonUK 21-02-2006 16:59

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Thanks for my order - Excellent Service.
Ordered Sunday Night - Received Tuesday Morning.

Cheers, :thumbup:
G.Troman, Sutton Coldfield.

SteveRat 25-02-2006 11:34

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
MGF MPi 1998 48k miles - heavily modified :MG: (head-work, uprated cams, exhaust, air filter etc etc) Currently used for long motorway trips 3-4 hours @4,000 rpm + half a dozen track days a year.

At the moment I use Mobil 1 either 0w-40 or 10w-40 depending on what I can get.

oilman 02-03-2006 10:55

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
With track days etc, there is a strong case for a proper race oil.

Would suggest a look at either Silkolene Pro S 5w-40 or Motul 300V 5w-40

Cheers
Simon
http://www.opieoils.co.uk

Mat-ZR120 02-03-2006 14:22

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Hi there oilman,

My first post on this site having been a member on mg-rover.org for a while though.

My question then, I have an 04 (MK1), 120 ZR. Its going in for its 2nd service tomorrow (25k). I want to change the gearbox oil but am unsure as to what it needs. I was under the impression that my car has a PG1 gearbox and MTF 94 is the oil of choice for it, is this correct? I tried an Ex Rover and Honda dealers but they dont stock the stuff. Are there any other gearbox oils i could consider.

Oh, car is used daily, it has a K&N panel filter and b/box.

Cheers in advance.

oilman 02-03-2006 15:08

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat-ZR120
Hi there oilman,

My first post on this site having been a member on mg-rover.org for a while though.

My question then, I have an 04 (MK1), 120 ZR. Its going in for its 2nd service tomorrow (25k). I want to change the gearbox oil but am unsure as to what it needs. I was under the impression that my car has a PG1 gearbox and MTF 94 is the oil of choice for it, is this correct? I tried an Ex Rover and Honda dealers but they dont stock the stuff. Are there any other gearbox oils i could consider.

Oh, car is used daily, it has a K&N panel filter and b/box.

Cheers in advance.

MTF stands for Manual Transmission Fluid and it is a very thin oil used in some boxes. Surprised the dealer doesn't have it.

I have two on my site Castrol SMX-S and Amsoil Synthetic MTF

Cheers
Simon

Mat-ZR120 02-03-2006 16:05

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Thanks for that Simon.

What grade is the Castrol SMX-S? Left it till the last minute as usual so just trying to get hold of some for tomorrow.

Cheers.

Mat-ZR120 02-03-2006 16:28

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Actually cancel that Simon, just checked on your website, Doh!! Checked with my local Halfrauds and they have some.

Thanks for the help.

curious 02-03-2006 22:18

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
You might also want to check out Land Rover and Unipart MTFs.

nedd 14-03-2006 13:43

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Can you advise about Castrol TXT Softec Plus 5W-40? Is it fully synthetic or not, and is it suitable for K series 1.6 engine with about 70.000km?

oilman 14-03-2006 14:27

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
It is suitable (and it is labelled synthetic) but is in fact a hydrocracked petroleum oil.

Cheers
Simon

roverman220 14-03-2006 21:51

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Hi Simon. Can you tell me any thing about " Chevron supreme synthetic, sae 5-40, apl/sl/cf , acea:A3/B3"? If it is any good would it be any good in a standard zs 180? Thanks, Tony.

oilman 16-03-2006 23:10

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Very cheap if I recall correctly, at costco?

I know little about it other than the fact it's hydrocracked.

Stock road car, should be fine but there's a whole lot better out there.

Cheers
Simon

roverman220 17-03-2006 05:20

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Thanks Simon :beerchug


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