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oilman 13-07-2005 00:30

Oil Recommendations
 
If anyone would like a recommendation of what oil to use in their engine, gearbox, differential or whatever (without a huge technical debate) then this is the place to ask.

I will look it up on our database and get back to you.

I will need the Model, Year, Engine size and Type plus any mods affecting BHP and type of driving (road/track etc).

I hope this is a service that will be useful so please don't be afraid to ask, you'll get a straight answer!

Cheers
Simon

fireengineer 13-07-2005 19:11

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Ok then.

ZS180 2003 2.5L V6 iTg induction, always runs super 97 RON with Booster 1.6 RON, road driving. Current oil Fully Synthetic Shell Helix unknown spec.

Dave Morris 13-07-2005 21:09

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
You Definately need some of opie oils Silkoline 5-40w fully synthetic. I can highly recomend it :beerchug

oilman 13-07-2005 22:05

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fireengineer
Ok then.

ZS180 2003 2.5L V6 iTg induction, always runs super 97 RON with Booster 1.6 RON, road driving. Current oil Fully Synthetic Shell Helix unknown spec.

I would recommend sticking with a fully synthetic.

0w-40 or 5w-40. API SL / ACEA A2 or A3

Cheers
Simon

oilman 13-07-2005 22:07

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Morris
You Definately need some of opie oils Silkoline 5-40w fully synthetic. I can highly recomend it :beerchug

There's not much better about, not cheap but top quality :)

Cheers
Simon

fireengineer 14-07-2005 00:16

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Good Good. The oil has just been put in at a service, they left a little tag on the dipstick with the exact spec of the oil on it. I asked for fully sinth and offered to pay the extra but at bill time they let it slide. Happy days.

Gene Hunt 14-07-2005 10:01

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Ok 2003 MG ZR 1.4 2003 normal every day use.

oilman 14-07-2005 10:27

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Grim Reaper
Ok 2003 MG ZR 1.4 2003 normal every day use.

Ok,

As a cost option you can go for a 10w-40 full synthetic.

As a quality option I look at a 5w-40 true synthetic.

Plenty to have a look at here http://www.opieoils.co.uk/lubricants.htm

Cheers

Simon.

Gene Hunt 14-07-2005 13:08

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oilman
Ok,

As a cost option you can go for a 10w-40 full synthetic.

As a quality option I look at a 5w-40 true synthetic.

Plenty to have a look at here http://www.opieoils.co.uk/lubricants.htm

Cheers

Simon.

..........thank's mate :roll: .

Sam 17-07-2005 16:30

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Why is no one recommending 0w30 fully synth oil?

oilman 17-07-2005 22:01

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
For which model?

Cheers
Simon

Sam 18-07-2005 00:09

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Zs180

MartinW 18-07-2005 11:49

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam
Why is no one recommending 0w30 fully synth oil?

10W30 is a very popular US specification for their engine designs, but mainly for two reasons:
Bore polishing was a real problem and so the 10w30 reduced this by using a lower viscosity.
Secondly, lower viscosity equals less fluid friction and therefore better fuel economy at the expense of extra engine wear. So 10w30 is sold as a energy conserving oil.

The European engines tend to be designed with much tighter tolerances so don't need to worry about bore polishing, but more importantly are also designed for longer service intervals than what is the norm in the US.

Therefore, I would hesitate to go below a 40 for general use, particularly in Summer. Stick with either the 10w40 or the 5w40 or even the 0w40. The first number can go lower, down to 0w on a full synthetic, as this improves the cold start, but the running viscosity should not go lower than 40 IMHO.

oilman 18-07-2005 12:53

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
My database says xw-40 so 5w-40 is a good choice.

Cheers
Simon

Shipy 19-07-2005 09:39

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Right then

Engine oil for a ZT190 2.5 v6, 18000 miles a year mainly motorway and
Gearbox oil to improve the gear change or would an additive be better?

Rgds
Shipy

oilman 20-07-2005 13:00

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shipy
Right then

Engine oil for a ZT190 2.5 v6, 18000 miles a year mainly motorway and
Gearbox oil to improve the gear change or would an additive be better?

Rgds
Shipy

Shipy,

For your car your looking at a 10w-40 semi synthetic as a cost option, for quality go for a good 5w-40 full synthetic unless the car is heavily modded.

For the gearbox, a good quality 75w-90 gear oil is ideal.

Please dont bother with additives, they can do more harm then good, for best results use top quality oil.

Cheers

Guy.

Shipy 20-07-2005 13:47

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oilman
Shipy,

For your car your looking at a 10w-40 semi synthetic as a cost option, for quality go for a good 5w-40 full synthetic unless the car is heavily modded.

For the gearbox, a good quality 75w-90 gear oil is ideal.

Please dont bother with additives, they can do more harm then good, for best results use top quality oil.

Cheers

Guy.

Thanks Guy

Any ideas on the amount of each i need?

Rgds
Lyndon

oilman 21-07-2005 09:33

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Lyndon,

The engine will take 5.8ltr

The gearbox will take 1.6ltr

Cheers

Guy.

Ti Rich 27-07-2005 22:40

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
ZT CDTi 135
20k miles per year mainly motorway and A road, not many short trips.
Maybe chipped

oilman 28-07-2005 13:58

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ti Rich
ZT CDTi 135
20k miles per year mainly motorway and A road, not many short trips.
Maybe chipped

A good 10w-40 semi synthetic as a cost option.

If you have ot chippen then a 5w-40 full synthetic will be a better quality option.

Cheers

Simon.

Ti Rich 28-07-2005 14:10

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Thanks Simon

Any particular 5W-40 you would recommend for us derv drivers?

oilman 29-07-2005 10:53

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ti Rich
Thanks Simon

Any particular 5W-40 you would recommend for us derv drivers?

To be honest most quality oils these days are happy with both petrol or diesel engines, look for an oil that meets the ACEA A3/B3 spec, the B3 is the diesel spec.

Quality brands to look at would be Mobil, Silkolene, Motul.

Cheers

Simon.

JH 115 01-08-2005 14:07

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Hi Simon,

Thanks for the offer of advice,

What oil should I use for my MGTF service ?

MGTF 2002 1.6 115BHP no mods.

oilman 01-08-2005 14:32

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
The low cost option is a 10w-40 but a better quality option would be a 5w-40 fully synthetic.

It costs more but needs changing less frequently.

Cheers
Simon

slobice 01-08-2005 21:02

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Iown a MGZR105 just coming up to its first 6 monthly oil change, mileage will be about 2000 ,what oil should i use i was thinking about a 10-40 good quality mineral oil.

Ti Rich 01-08-2005 21:36

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oilman
A good 10w-40 semi synthetic as a cost option.

If you have ot chippen then a 5w-40 full synthetic will be a better quality option.

Cheers

Simon.

Unipart 5-50 full synthetic ordered for the next service at my local ex-dealer.

Any idea who makes it????

oilman 01-08-2005 21:49

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slobice
Iown a MGZR105 just coming up to its first 6 monthly oil change, mileage will be about 2000 ,what oil should i use i was thinking about a 10-40 good quality mineral oil.

You could switch to a semi 10w-40 and then to a fully 5w-40 but she should be well enough run in now to go straight to the fully.

Cheers
Simon

oilman 01-08-2005 21:52

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ti Rich
Unipart 5-50 full synthetic ordered for the next service at my local ex-dealer.

Any idea who makes it????

The lowest bidder unfortunately and although labelled a fully, it's a petroleum oil, not a true synthetic I'm afraid. It contains a small % of Group III (hydrocracked mineral oil) which allows them to label it as a synthetic. Unfortunately, quality-wise it's in a different league to pao/ester synthetic.

Cheers
Simon

Ti Rich 01-08-2005 22:09

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Thanks for that Simon, looks like i had better supply my own...........

Ti Rich 10-08-2005 14:51

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Gone for Mobil 1, better to be safe with these extended diesel service intervals!

Simon, will order it from you next time - much cheaper than the shops!

Ti Rich 12-08-2005 11:56

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Can't get Mobil 1 5W-40 will Mobil 1 Diesel 0W-40 be OK for my CDTi?

oilman 12-08-2005 13:33

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
I would use the straight Mobil 1 0w-40 as it carries good diesel specs anyway.

Cheers
Simon

BladeDude 13-08-2005 13:56

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Hi

Wondering on best oil type for a 2001 MGF 1.8i VVC ?
It has a full MG history so I suppose it has used the 'recommended' oil for its 60k mile life. (ACEA A2 is the only spec I can see in the handbook.)
I have heard that fully synthetic is not recommended for the VVC - is this correct ?

Would appreciate your input - Thanks

BladeDude :beerchug

oilman 13-08-2005 23:12

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
My database says 0w-40, 5w-40 or 10w-40 and recommends ACEA A2/A3.

It does not make any exclusion of synthetics and I would not expect it too, they only give benefits.

My choice: 5w-40 Fully Syn

Cheers
Simon

Sam 14-08-2005 15:44

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
I know its not an MG but could you recommend an engine oil for a 2005 Model 2.0L 16v Megane II.

Thx

oilman 14-08-2005 20:12

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
The recommended oil is 5w-40 synthetic ACEA A3 minumum.

Cheers
Simon

Goose 14-08-2005 23:18

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Hello. What would be good for a 1989 Mini (998cc) with 18,000 miles? :roll:

curious 16-08-2005 13:53

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oilman
The lowest bidder unfortunately and although labelled a fully, it's a petroleum oil, not a true synthetic I'm afraid. It contains a small % of Group III (hydrocracked mineral oil) which allows them to label it as a synthetic. Unfortunately, quality-wise it's in a different league to pao/ester synthetic.

Can I once again correct this. Whilst there are no laws or industry protocols regarding the labelling of oils, the term "full synthetic" is only used to describe an oil that contains only synthetic base oil, where "synthetic" means groups III or IV (and usually V). So adding a small % of group III will not qualify an oil as fully synthetic in anyone's standards.

Similarly companies also have policies regarding how to describe their partial synthetics - this leads to terms like semi-synthetic, part-synthetic, synthetic enhanced and many others. These will contain a material amount of synthetic base oil (ie, not just a nominal amount).

I know your views on group III, but like it or not they are synthetics as far as the lubricants industry goes (save for a small number of countries where they can not be described as synthetic). Be that as it may, there is no distinction between "full" and what you call "true" synthetic and one can not determine this from the label, so unless it says clearly on a pack that an oil contains only group IV (PAO) and/or group V (eg ester) then you'll never know.

Please believe that I fully support your drive for using quality products and agree with your recommendations, but I just wanted to be sure that the consumers have the correct knowledge in case they wish to make their own, informed decisions.

Also, don't write a company's whole range of oils off because they use group III in some products; they may also use PAO and/or ester too, in some cases exclusively.

oilman 16-08-2005 21:06

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goose
Hello. What would be good for a 1989 Mini (998cc) with 18,000 miles? :roll:

The recommended viscosity is 10w-40.

Quality is really down to you.

Cheers
Simon

BladeDude 17-08-2005 10:36

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oilman
My database says 0w-40, 5w-40 or 10w-40 and recommends ACEA A2/A3.

It does not make any exclusion of synthetics and I would not expect it too, they only give benefits.

My choice: 5w-40 Fully Syn

Cheers
Simon

Thanks for your advice Dude :beerchug

oilman 21-10-2005 13:47

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Don't forget, I'm here to help so feel free to ask.

Cheers
Simon

Simon I 24-10-2005 11:56

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Hi,

I have a ZT 190+ 52Reg with 26,000 on the clock, it is used for normal every day driving and no mods.

At the last service the dealer used Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40. It is now due its next service is it ok to let them keep using the shell ultra or can you recommend a better option

Thanks

Simon I

oilman 24-10-2005 12:05

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
The Shell will do the job but there is always better, it's a question of cost.

Cheers
Simon

SimonwardinGuernsey 24-10-2005 17:05

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Hi there

I have a ZS 120 (1800 k series) its had alot of engine work and have never used any fuel other than Total Super Unleaded, the car has done 29000 miles and is the 2001 model, i dont mind cost just want performance, whats best to put in?!?

Thanx

JohnNI 03-11-2005 23:48

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
29,000 miles is a lot of mileage for someone resident in Guernsey ;)

Regards

John

SimonwardinGuernsey 06-11-2005 11:59

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
not really, im out at least 4 times a week doin stuff round the island with everyone and we do weekly Island Spins (like last nite) 100mph through narrow roads kinda gets the adrenalin pumpin.

to say i read in a car buyers mag the other week that my car should have done 44000 by now, id say 29000 is pretty good as they say add on an 120quid to the price for every 1000 miles under the 440000.

oilman 06-11-2005 14:13

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonwardinGuernsey
Hi there

I have a ZS 120 (1800 k series) its had alot of engine work and have never used any fuel other than Total Super Unleaded, the car has done 29000 miles and is the 2001 model, i dont mind cost just want performance, whats best to put in?!?

Thanx

A decent synthetic 5w-40 would be a good choice. For track and/or modded cars then I could highly recommend Silkolene PRO S 5w-40 or Motul 300V 5w-40.

Cheers
Simon

SimonwardinGuernsey 08-11-2005 12:42

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
do you know where the best place is to get the Silkolene Oil? i dont know if anyone supplies it on Guernsey

thanx for your help

oilman 08-11-2005 13:58

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonwardinGuernsey
do you know where the best place is to get the Silkolene Oil? i dont know if anyone supplies it on Guernsey

thanx for your help

Guernsey, fraid not.

Ive being trying to send some out there and its a customs night mare because they consider it "hazardous".

Not cheap shipping either.

Cheers.

new160 16-11-2005 07:56

Re: Oil Recommendations
 
Oilman Hi.

When would be the best time change the oil in a new ZR 160. The mileage is currently 800 and there are a couple of mobil stickers on the car. I don't know what actual grade of oil is in it.

It can get extremely cold up here overnight in the winter.

Reading from your postings I think '0' would help cold weather starting and '40' is required for the 1.8 160 engine.

Would the new Castrol Edge 0 - 40 be a good oil to put in it?. It seems very expensive, especially as they only sell it in 1 and 4 litre containers. and I would need 4.5 litres.
Do you know if this is fully synthetic or is it another of Castrol's concoptions?

I couldn't see it on your web site Would you recomend it? or would you sugest an alternative.

Thanks
Iain


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